Author Topic: Let's hear how you came upon your interests in Secessionist medals.  (Read 4330 times)

Offline Henry Scott Goodman

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Hey everyone!

Listen guys, I'm doing what I can to get images up under the different artists forums but I can't do everything.  How about you all help me out by discussing what got you started in collecting German secessionist medals.  I know I've sold a lot of these types of medals to most of you.  What compelled you to buy these in the first place?

Let's get some discussion going here, okay?

Offline Redmikey

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Re: Let's hear how you came upon your interests in Secessionist medals.
« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2013, 07:08:34 AM »
Scott my collection of WW1 era medals has grown considerably thanks in part to yourself. Identifying what made me buy certain medals is a complicated question. I think medals that do not look like they were commissioned, rather it was a free thought process of the artist appeal to me. I have become size sensitive 50mm is the smallest nowadays. Then with a few note able exceptions they have got to be French or German in my opinion the only nations that could make fine art.

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Re: Let's hear how you came upon your interests in Secessionist medals.
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2013, 09:42:49 PM »
Way back (1996)?? or so I had been bidding and winning quite a few High-Grade US coins on Teletrade.  For some reason, I bid on a Goetz pattern 10 mark piece.  I believe the Goetz name was rolling around in my subconscious probably due to an article about the topic I had seen somewhere.  I received the item, didnt think too much of it one way or the other, and it languished in a box somewhere for a few years.  A few years later I was wandering around at the FUN show and ended up buying Keinast volume I for $40!!  What a strange and fascinating book!  Within a few weeks I was buying some wonderful K-386's off EBay for $200.00 apiece (we all have to learn somehow) and I was hooked.  In those early eBay days you could search and find some real unattributed bargains.  I really believe that now that the Keinast books are available, fairly cheaply, there will soon be quite a few new converts.

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Re: Let's hear how you came upon your interests in Secessionist medals.
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2013, 01:36:33 PM »
I happened to order a Dix-Noonan-Webb catalog for one of their auctions in December 2005, primarily for Goetz medals.  The auction also contained Eberbach, Gotze, Zutt, Weddig, Gies, medals and medallions.  At that time I had never seen this material before.  It was a mesmerizing catalog that set me in my current direction towards growing a collection of secessionist medals and medallions.  In retrospect I wish I had bid higher and on more lots as you can't touch any of this material at those hammer prices any longer, not even remotely.  For those of you collecting this type of medallion, and if you haven't realized it yet, you are collecting ART, two-dimensional ART.  This material has nothing to do with numismatics or 'exonumia', it is ART.  I am glad I discovered this area of collecting.  8)

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Re: Let's hear how you came upon your interests in Secessionist medals.
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2014, 01:47:48 PM »
Hello. I was getting interested in german expressionism, political art etc. and came across the Mark Jones 'Dance of Death' book for 1 in a charity shop. The interest led from there. I started to investigate the area and found a whole field of interest unknown to me before. I picked up in another charity shop a copy of 'The Medal' from 1988 and it featured an article about Ludwig Gies. Then I came across some Gies and Eberbach medals in an antique shop and that was that! The dealer had no idea what he had, but I knew the initials and snapped them up.

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Re: Let's hear how you came upon your interests in Secessionist medals.
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2014, 12:00:14 AM »
Hey Macarenses, What is the possibility that you could scan the Gies article from the MEDAL so that it could be posted to our reading room?  There is so little out there in English that we should try and glean every bit that we can.  If you can scan then let me know and I will help with the posting so that everyone can grab a copy or read on-line from here.

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Re: Let's hear how you came upon your interests in Secessionist medals.
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2014, 12:36:06 PM »
Not so sure the current  people at the journal would like that with copyright an all...

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Re: Let's hear how you came upon your interests in Secessionist medals.
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2014, 12:46:51 AM »
Well that's unfortunate then.  As a standing member of FIDEM I have requested, more than once, information that was published in the "MEDAL" for my research.  They never respond.  FIDEM is much like the ANS, the only time you hear from them are when dues are up or if they want you to donate.  Neither are very user-friendly unless, I guess, you fit within their 'circle' of influence.

If you can, please give me the actual issue number and article title.  I will once again write to them, Attwood this time, for information and see if i can get a response.  Perhaps I should switch my membership from FIDEM to BAMs if it would do any good that is.